Tie rods and wheel bearings

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Michael Chiu, Nov 20, 2004.

  1. Michael Chiu

    Michael Chiu Guest

    On my 1998 S70T5, I've gone through numerous problems lately. I've
    replaced my engine mount bushings and both left and right CV joints be/c
    of torn boots. Now, I'm looking to fix the humming sound I hear from the
    front passenger side.

    After the person did the work on my driver's side CV joint, he mentioned a
    problem with my right side tie rods. I didn't mention it to him before, so
    I don't think he was just making it up to make extra money.

    My humming sound sounds rotational. Would a tie rod replacement (inner and
    outer) be the culprit? I have read about wheel bearings or even an
    unbalanced wheel making sounds. I don't have the means to lift the car and
    look around, so any suggestions to what I should be looking for or
    listening for would be great.

    I plan on letting a mechanic fix the problems, but I'd also like to buy
    the parts from FCP Groton beforehand to save money. So, any extra help
    about what I need would be great.

    Mike
     
    Michael Chiu, Nov 20, 2004
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  2. Michael Chiu

    Spanky Guest

    Check your front strut dampers. If one of these fail it can cause early
    failure of the tie rods. The humming sound may be related to replacement of
    the CV joints.
    You may want to take it to another shop for a second opinion.

    Spanky
     
    Spanky, Nov 20, 2004
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  3. Michael Chiu

    Michael Chiu Guest

    The hum was already there. I was hoping the sound would have gone away
    after the rebuild.

    mike
     
    Michael Chiu, Nov 21, 2004
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  4. Michael Chiu

    Spanky Guest

    If the CV joint was driven in a worn out condition for a long distance or at
    high speed, I wonder if that could cause the driveshaft bearing to wear out?

    Spanky
     
    Spanky, Nov 21, 2004
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  5. Michael Chiu

    Robert Guest


    You don't need expensive lift equipment to test for a bad wheel bearing.

    Simply drive 'till you hear the hum/groan.

    Now, on a roadway without traffic, load the side you think the noise is
    coming from by turning the wheel slightly, kinda weaving the car. (do this
    on dry pavement).

    The noise may not go away. Now load it in the opposite direction, noise
    goes away? It's the wheel bearing.

    CVs are constant velocity, they only make noise when they are being roated
    on their axis (typically). They 'click', at low speeds because the balls
    are loose in their cage.

    Take out your spare tire jack, jack up the offending bearing side, make
    certain the vehicle is secure. Grab the wheel top and bottom, and see if
    there is any play or any movement on this axis. Now turn the wheel by hand,
    fairly quickly. The bad bearing may be heard at this point.


    For the tie rod end, place the car back on the ground. Have someone sit
    behind the wheel, look at the tie rod end and have your assistant gently
    turn the steering wheel in either direction, just slightly to load the tie
    rod end. If there is play before the entire assembly starts to move, the
    tie rod end is bad. You can park beside a curb and load the wheel with more
    force, there should be VERY minimal play whatsoever. You can also feel the
    play in the steering wheel.

    I have a bad tie rod end, this is how I checked it, and luckily it is easy
    enough for me to replace. I will need an alignment after though.

    Tie rod ends are a highly stressed component, and it is ALWAYS being loaded
    (unless you only drive straight). Have it replaced, and have it replaced
    with a good quality unit. Alignments are expensive, paying a few extra
    bucks for a part that lasts longer is a good idea, one without a grease
    fitting is a good option.


    ALSO, most mechanics do not like having people bring them parts. They can't
    make any profit this way, and some will refuse the work. I certainly would.
    It would be like being an electrician and wiring someone's home, the home
    owner providing you with all the wire and outlets, where this is where your
    profit margin is and the entire reason for being in business. Do you bring
    your own steak to a restaurant??

    Unless of course your mechanic doesn't mind, some don't. I do 98% of my own
    work, mechanics HATE that. The only thing I can't do is an alignment (well,
    a string alignment no problem), and I can't mount/balance tires anymore
    (sold my machine, I'm just a home mechanic/hobbyist! ;)

    Cheers
     
    Robert, Nov 21, 2004
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  6. Michael Chiu

    Spanky Guest

    I was talking about the bearing on the other side of the CV joint from the
    wheel bearing.

    BTW, the Volvo dealership doesn't mind when I bring them parts because they
    are not set up to order anything but OEM parts.

    Spanky
     
    Spanky, Nov 22, 2004
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  7. Michael Chiu

    Robert Guest

    Oh, your subject said wheel bearings..

    sorry about that.
     
    Robert, Nov 23, 2004
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