Timing Belt_ ANY warning about ready to snap???

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by mlywly, Sep 13, 2006.

  1. mlywly

    mlywly Guest

    Is there any checking I can do to determine weather my Timing Belt is
    about to go? The Tensioner? If I took it to Volvo could they :look" at
    it and advise me weather I have a few 100 miles left, or not? I do not
    have $900 at the moment but, I have had the fear of Satan put in me
    because my 1997 960 has 150k miles and (obviously) is ready for a
    changin'!
    Thanks!
     
    mlywly, Sep 13, 2006
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    Marvin Guest

    A mechanic once told me that he could hear that my timing
    belt (on a Saab) was close to failing. I don't know if that
    is a reliable diagnostic.
     
    Marvin, Sep 13, 2006
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  3. mlywly

    jmcgill Guest

    No one knows, and you can't really tell without inspecting it, but the
    work to inspect it is getting close to just changing it (although you
    want to do your pump too).

    Maybe it will just jump a tooth and alter your timing. Or maybe it will
    grind pieces of your valve train to mush. Or maybe it will run for
    another 10,000 miles and then break.

    Superstition now:
    These things run on neglect for a long time, but once the owner is aware
    of the risks and the necessities, they will break in the worst possible
    way :)
     
    jmcgill, Sep 13, 2006
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    dingbat Guest

    No.

    You _might_ feel the teeth on it. If they're noticeably rounded, then
    it's an old one.

    Heavy-footed use of the clutch (drag starts) and sudden rpm shifts will
    certainly encourage it to fail earlier.

    It's also not that hard to chaneg it yourself (assuming a 4-pot B200 or
    similar)
     
    dingbat, Sep 13, 2006
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    John Horner Guest

    No, there are no good warning indicators except for time and mileage.

    If that is the original belt on your 960 then you are flirting with
    disaster every time you use the vehicle.

    John
     
    John Horner, Sep 13, 2006
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    jch Guest

    _____
    This engine should be on the home stretch with its second belt (a new
    one is needed every 50,000 miles or 5 years whichever comes first). A
    new (third belt in your case) is indeed required. I recently changed a
    similar belt on a Volvo B230 engine (in a 240 model car) and it had run
    63,000 miles on that particular belt. The belt itself looked just fine.
    The bearing in the tensioner pulley had become rough, while the
    surface of the pulley was clean.

    The belt and tensioner pulley design in your engine is almost identical
    to the B230's setup. I would expect to pay around C$200 to C$300 for a
    belt and pulley change. Some mechanics recommend a pulley change every
    other belt. My experience suggests that tensioner pulleys last well
    over 150,000 miles, meaning a new pulley every third belt change.

    Consider changing your own belt. It is not that difficult. It would
    take you a typical Saturday afternoon. Cost of parts is about C$60.
     
    jch, Sep 14, 2006
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  7. Cost me $100.00 AU Dollars on my 740 turbo that's about $75.00 US Dollars
    from my local Volvo specialist .Mind you NOT THE DEALER those guys scare me
    ..
     
    John Robertson, Sep 14, 2006
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    James Sweet Guest

    The only way to tell the belt is going out is when it snaps and destroys
    the engine. Get it changed now, if you don't you'll be kicking yourself.
     
    James Sweet, Sep 14, 2006
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  9. mlywly

    James Sweet Guest


    Chances are that was a chain, I know the inline 4's in most Saabs are
    chain driven and you can hear when they're getting loose.
     
    James Sweet, Sep 14, 2006
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    John Smith Guest

    John

    Where in Australia are you and who is your local specialist? I'm in
    Melbourne and curious to see if you use the same guy I do.

    John
     
    John Smith, Sep 14, 2006
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    hjsjms Guest

    You can't look at a belt and tell with any certainty whether it is
    ready to break. Short of the obvious like a belt that has split open,
    etc. Just rely on the number of miles driven and swap the belt
    according to manufacturer recommendations.

    Yes, you can probably save some money by driving beyond the recommended
    change limit, but why put yourself through all that worry about whether
    it will snap 200 miles from the closest gas station and possibly
    destroy the motor in the process.
     
    hjsjms, Sep 14, 2006
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  12. mlywly

    mlywly Guest

    I agree!!!
    Ok, where can I find instructions for changing this myself. Also, other
    than the timing belt what should I be able to also change at the same
    time. I will buy good tools, etc.
     
    mlywly, Sep 14, 2006
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    jch Guest

    jch, Sep 14, 2006
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    mlywly Guest

    mlywly, Sep 14, 2006
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    Roger Hunt Guest

    I once ran out of fuel while in Italy, and by some miracle I was so
    close to a petrol station I was able to coast to a stop, level with the
    pumps. :)
     
    Roger Hunt, Sep 15, 2006
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    Gary Heston Guest

    I used to work with a guy who did that.

    The station attendant came out and ask him to pull up to the next pump.


    Gary
     
    Gary Heston, Sep 16, 2006
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    Roger Hunt Guest

    <g>
     
    Roger Hunt, Sep 16, 2006
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