Trickle Charging While on Vacation?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Espressopithecus (Java Man), Jul 23, 2008.

  1. Each time I leave my 1995 854T in a cold garage (~ 6C) while on a
    winter vacation, I return to find the battery dead. My Volvo dealer
    says it's normal due to the drain from the security system. This year,
    I'm thinking about setting up a charger to come on daily for an hour or
    so, charging it at the low setting of 2 amps.

    Is this better for the battery than allowing it to discharge fully? Is
    1 hour per day at 2 amps likely to be too much or too little over a 3
    week period?

    Java
     
    Espressopithecus (Java Man), Jul 23, 2008
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  2. Espressopithecus (Java Man)

    Leftie Guest

    Use a battery Tender Jr. It will switch on and off automatically and
    keep the battery up to charge with no hassle.
     
    Leftie, Jul 23, 2008
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  3. Espressopithecus (Java Man)

    drossgunn Guest

    Keeping the battery charged is definitely better thatn letting it
    discharge. A full discharge is very hard on a standard (not deep
    cycle) battery and should be avoided like the plague. It is also very
    hard on the battery to sit in a discharged state for any period of
    time. There are a number of trickle chargers that will keep it in
    good chape while stored. Alternatively, simply ensure it is fully
    charged before storing the car and disconnect the battery. It will
    loose a little charge over a 2 month period, but not enought o be a
    problem.
     
    drossgunn, Aug 2, 2008
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  4. Espressopithecus (Java Man)

    Leftie Guest


    Even deep cycle batteries suffer from a full discharge unless they
    are NiCads. The Battery Tender Jr. seems like a great battery
    maintainer, and will also charge batteries if given enough time. You can
    find them for $30 on Ebay.
     
    Leftie, Aug 3, 2008
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  5. Thanks to all who have responded. It sounds as though the Jr. is the
    ticket.

    Java
     
    Espressopithecus (Java Man), Aug 5, 2008
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  6. Espressopithecus (Java Man)

    Leftie Guest

    You're welcome. The Tender also comes with two sets of plug-in
    leads: alligator clips and a separate set of ring terminal leads that
    you can install on the car, so you can just plug it into the Tender when
    you leave it sitting.
     
    Leftie, Aug 6, 2008
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  7. Espressopithecus (Java Man)

    Maarten Deen Guest

    Aside from purpose chargers, is it a Relly Bad Thing(tm) to just hook up
    a regulated power supply to the battery or will that also do the trick?
    I have the same problem with my oldtimer convertible which does not see
    the light of winter.

    Maarten
     
    Maarten Deen, Aug 11, 2008
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  8. Espressopithecus (Java Man)

    Maarten Deen Guest

    I'm thinking of a laboratory power supply, set so 12 or 13 V. It will
    not give more than that voltage and the current will drop to almost 0
    when the battery is full.
    I'm wondering if that is bad for the battery or not.

    Oh, and I'm Dutch ;)

    Maarten
     
    Maarten Deen, Aug 11, 2008
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  9. Espressopithecus (Java Man)

    Leftie Guest

    That depends on what you mean by "regulated." If it switches off
    when the battery voltage hits 13.6 or so, and doesn't try to charge at
    10 amps, it may be ok. But seriously, why not spend $35 for a real
    battery maintainer?
     
    Leftie, Aug 11, 2008
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  10. Espressopithecus (Java Man)

    steve H Guest

    Is the power supply happy connected to a 13V unlimited current supply if
    the mains fails?? Many are not.

    Steve H
     
    steve H, Aug 11, 2008
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  11. Espressopithecus (Java Man)

    Ken Phillips Guest

    There are standing recommendations to use only chargers and not power
    supplies for charging batteries, however, the failure mode that Steve
    mentions above, which is probably the reason for such recommendations,
    is easy to protect against. Just fit a blocking diode of a large enough
    amperage rating on the +ve lead, and crank up the output voltage by .2V
    to take account of the voltage drop across the diode. This prevents the
    battery supplying voltage to the output terminals of the power supply if
    the mains fails, or, if someone 'helpfully' turns the PSU output down.

    Ken P.
     
    Ken Phillips, Aug 11, 2008
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  12. A battery charger is just a regulated power supply with the voltage
    preset and a high current capability. A trickle charger is just a
    regulated power supply with the voltage preset and a low current
    capability.

    The problem with using a normal regulated power supply is if you make an
    error in setting the voltage. If it is too low you won't get a full
    charge and if it is too high you will burn off the electrolyte and ruin
    the battery. I think the power supply should be set at 13.6 volts or
    slightly less, not 12 or 13 volts. That makes a big difference.

    Battery manufacturers should have a spec sheet which lists the optimum
    trickle charge voltage.

    Also, never set a battery on a concrete floor. That shortens the life.
    I am not sure exactly why except the floor is a huge thermal sink and
    causes condensation in humid weather. It also causes a thermal gradient
    in the battery.
     
    Stephen Henning, Aug 21, 2008
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