Update on 144 brake problem

Discussion in 'Other Volvo Models' started by sherwin dubren, Sep 20, 2009.

  1. My Volvo mechanic threw in the towel after replacing the
    brake booster with one of his own (not tested) and failed
    to fix the problem. He is a big disappointment after doing
    an excellent job of fixing a universal joint problem a few
    years ago.

    We took back the car and I located a brake repair service
    in Portland Oregon. I removed the unit and shipped it off
    for repair. They received it last Thursday and in a quick
    check found it did not hold a vacuum. They will rebuild it
    and ship it back to me for a reasonable cost.

    I am also disappointed in the Volvo company reply to my
    query about brake boosters on a 144 1969 Volvo. They told
    me from the N.A. office that this car did not have a
    repairable brake booster. The people in Portland contradicted
    that by saying there were some units in that year that were
    indeed repairable. Evidently, Bendix made the original units
    and sold it to Volvo through an intermediary company. If I
    had listened to the official volvo answer, I would have given
    up on the car. There are a fair number of these Bendix units
    around, so if my unit had turned out to be unrepairable, they
    could have replaced it with one that was.

    I should be getting the repaired brake booster back next week,
    and I will report on how workable it turns out.

    Sherwin
     
    sherwin dubren, Sep 20, 2009
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  2. sherwin dubren

    Leftie Guest


    Good to hear. Two comments: first, universal joints aren't hard to
    fix - I worked on them in high school, so that isn't a good indicator of
    a mechanic's skill. Second, as a fairly small car manufacturer, Volvo
    relied a lot on other companies for parts, and probably didn't keep up
    on all the permutations, or at any rate the people there *now* don't
    know about them.
     
    Leftie, Sep 20, 2009
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  3. sherwin dubren

    Gary Heston Guest

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    It would be helpful if you can post some information on how to
    identify which are repairable and which are not. I may need
    one for my '72 145 one of these days.


    Gary
     
    Gary Heston, Sep 20, 2009
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  4. sherwin dubren

    Leftie Guest

    He did. Something about one locking tab vs two on the shell, and
    whether or not it has a full metal band around it. Read back in the thread.
     
    Leftie, Sep 20, 2009
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  5. I thought I mentioned it already, but a repairable unit has
    crimps on one side only. The non-repairable version has
    crimps circling both sides of the unit. It also has a metal
    band around it.

    These people in Portland say that this is a problem with several
    cars besides Volvo, like Mercedes and Jaguar. In most cases, they
    can find an equivalent unit, probably made by Bendix, as were the
    ones on the Volvos.

    My unit arrived this evening from UPS. I will mount it tomorrow
    and give the results. The people in Portland checked it on their
    tester, before shipping, so I have confidence it will work.

    Sherwin
     
    sherwin dubren, Sep 26, 2009
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  6. It may be a simple repair, but not always easy to recognize the
    symptoms. In this case it was a shuddering as the car was brought
    to a stop. Our long time mechanic, who had worked on the Volvo
    many times, thought it was the brakes, and replaced almost the
    whole system. His partner was a better mechanic, who was one of
    those rare individuals that knew how to tune the dual carbs on
    our Volvo. Unfortunately, he was no longer around when we brought
    the car in for diagnosis.

    This 75 year old Swede must know something as his lot was full of
    newer Volvos. He just didn't want to be bothered to chase down a
    replacement unit, and instead threw in an untested replacement
    lying around his shop that did not work.

    I still think Volvo should do a better job of keeping records on
    their parts installed. Remember, a Volvo is 'For Life', which
    may work if you die an untimely early death. I'm not bitter, just
    more cautious about what they tell me.

    Sherwin
     
    sherwin dubren, Sep 26, 2009
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  7. sherwin dubren

    James Sweet Guest



    I think you're taking that slogan much too literally. When they say
    Volvo for life, they are suggesting that one buys another Volvo when it
    comes time to replace their old one, not that one Volvo will last a
    lifetime!
     
    James Sweet, Sep 26, 2009
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  8. Installed the repaired brake booster on the Volvo today.

    It was a complete success. The brakes work as good as
    ever.

    I would recommend the rebuilders to anyone:

    Power Brake Booster Exchange, Inc.
    4335 S.E. 63rd Ave.
    Portland OR 97206
    503-238-8882

    Now that the car is mechanically back in shape, I have
    to concentrate on the body work. The body needs structural
    reinforcement and some cosmetic work. I need to find
    a welder ready to take this on.

    Sherwin
     
    sherwin dubren, Sep 27, 2009
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