Volvo Dilemma.

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by John Daniels, Jan 18, 2004.

  1. John Daniels

    John Daniels Guest

    Hi I am in a bit of a quandary about replacing one of our Volvos.

    Dad's got a new Volvo every three years or so. Now he's getting old and his
    01 V40 1.6SE is approaching it's third birthday and therefore the end of the
    warranty.

    He likes hassle free motoring. None of us have any technical knowledge what
    so ever. We love the cars and are prepared to pay our local and very good
    dealer the necessary to keep us on the road.

    Now as I said Dad is getting old and won't be driving for ever even though
    he is in perfect health. Although the V40 is 3 years old it's only
    covered - wait for it - six-and-a-half thousand miles. It still has the bits
    of flashing in the tyres, the spare's never used the leather seats in the
    back never sat on....Get the picture?

    The other day the battery died and Volvo installed a new one under warranty.

    A nice hassle-free feeling to be at the dealer and not worry about the cost.
    While it was there I got them to fix something on the exhaust that was
    rattling - again under warranty.

    So with it being nearly up on the warranty it is time to change.

    But what a waste. It's a new car in terms of mileage.

    Anyway, got chatting to a mate of mine who's one of the sales guys there.
    He offered me a mint deal on an S60T. 4 K on the clock, loads of discount -
    it's only 4 months old - and about a grand over book for the V40

    A smashing deal - and not much to change. But still a hell of a lot to pay
    for a new warranty which really is the only reason the car will be changed.

    If we run the car out of warranty we take a big chance. It's a damn
    complicated car...Ecc Cruse heated seats etc etc.....

    And being a low miler can't do the engine that much good.

    It's about 500 UK Pounds for a year extension on the manufacturers warranty.
    Bloody expensive.

    It's seven thousand pounds to change to a newer car. A bit extravagant. when
    the old one's still got the Dutch factory stickers on it.

    Any thoughts on what might be best?

    Are there companies in the UK that offer warranty insurance packages that
    cover faults other than on the engine. The CD player, info centre headlight
    wipers...All non-essential items which make the car so nice must cost a
    fortune to get fixed.

    I'd really appreciate your ideas. Thanks JD

    PS Anyone know a good independent Volvo specialist in NE England.
     
    John Daniels, Jan 18, 2004
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  2. John Daniels

    James Sweet Guest

    That seems like a rather silly thing to do, have you considered how much
    having a warranty is costing you? If your dad kept the cars twice as long,
    or even longer, he could afford to pay a reputable mechanic to repair any
    little thing that breaks during that time and probably still come out ahead.
     
    James Sweet, Jan 18, 2004
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  3. John Daniels

    Guest Guest

    Sell the V40, buy the S60, buy a bike, give me the S60. ;-)

    don't bother with the warranty, just have the car serviced yearly according
    to the schedule with a 6 monthly oil and filter change cos of the extremely
    small mileage covered and have an extra holiay per year.

    Make sure you give it a hard fast run every fortnight or so once at
    operating temperature to drive out the moisture that will have acculmulated.
    (15miles +)

    Tim..
     
    Guest, Jan 18, 2004
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  4. John Daniels

    Tim McNamara Guest

    Yeah. Do the maths. ;-)

    Buy the extension on the warranty and save £6500. Do all the
    scheduled maintenance prescribed in the owner's manual. The car will
    be hassle-free for the rest of your father's life and much of yours.
     
    Tim McNamara, Jan 18, 2004
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  5. John Daniels

    Me Guest

    Actually it is peanuts compared to the depreciation you will suffer if you
    buy a new car.
    The current car has lost around £9000 ($16000) in 3 years, but depreciation
    will be gentler from now on, why on earth would you want to buy new again
    and be back to losing 3 grand a year when the car you have now is
    practically in new condition anyway?
     
    Me, Jan 18, 2004
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  6. I agree.

    There is another option, though. Before it goes out of warranty, get it
    extended as long as humanly possible - out another 5-8 years if you can.

    Yes, it's a lot of money, but compared to a new car every three years,
    it's a no-brainer.
     
    Joseph Oberlander, Jan 18, 2004
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  7. John Daniels

    Gary Heston Guest

    Do they offer a longer warranty extention for a lower per-year rate?
    Might make it a better deal.

    In any case, even without a warranty, I think it'd be a better deal
    than a new car.


    Gary
     
    Gary Heston, Jan 19, 2004
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  8. John Daniels

    John Daniels Guest

    Thanks for your eplies...Plenty of food for thought there. If I could get
    it warrantied in advance for another few years I would but they only sell
    the extensions on a 12 month term.

    I'll let you know what I decide and how I get on.

    Thanks again,

    JD
     
    John Daniels, Jan 19, 2004
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  9. Hi,

    A volvo does not need warranty: do without it. If you ever need
    repairs, go to a good volvo garage. Assuming that you loose when buy
    another car every 3 years, about (I think in Euro) 3000 to 4000 Euro a
    year, you can do an incredible amount of repairs. But Volvo is very
    good and needs no repairs: We have a '95 Volvo 440 1.8i, ran 230.000
    km now, and is still like new. We had only one repair: had to exchange
    the waterpump, costs only 125 Euro. And every couple of years a set of
    tyres.

    Don't be afraid. For that price you pay for warranty, you can replace
    the whole motor every 3 years!

    The Volvo is my wife's car, I drive a peugeot: 300.000 km now. And I
    know somebody with a citroen (turbodiesel) with almost 400.000 km!

    We bought the Volvo secondhand, aged 5 years, from somebody who knew
    the waterpump had to be replaced and was afraid: "o no, we're getting
    costs". So he bought a $$$$$$$ new car, and we bought his for the
    price that was equal to the value he lost every year.

    Volvo lets the motors run at low rpm's, ours only does 4000 rpm when
    we drive 160 km/hour. That is why they do not wear out quickly.

    Pieter Hoeben
     
    Pieter Hoeben, Jan 23, 2004
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  10. John Daniels

    James Sweet Guest


    I wouldn't go so far as to say it'll need *no* repairs, but you could
    certainly pay for any feasible repair it might need for much less than
    buying a new car every few years. My roommate was into the warranty thing
    for a while, took several years of seeing how much money he dumped into that
    before he realized how pointless it was.
     
    James Sweet, Jan 24, 2004
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  11. John Daniels

    Vrparts Guest

    Why do they sell Warranties?
    Because they make a profit.
    Why?
    Because the warranty costs more than it is worth.

    DUH!!!




    Had
    79 245 D,
    81 240 D,
    86 240 320,000mi and running fine when traded
    94 944 Green 257,503 mi CRUNCH Parted out
    Have
    94 944 White 149,000 The New one
    94 944 Maroon 135,000 mi
     
    Vrparts, Jan 24, 2004
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