Volvo SUV vs. BMW SUV

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by VV, Jan 24, 2004.

  1. VV

    VV Guest

    I am seriously buying an SUV for fun. My mechanic recommends a JAPANESE
    MAKE (Toyota./Lexus or Nissan?infinity, HONDA/ ACURA). But i find those
    brands extremely boring and there are too many around.
    My final choices are a Volvo's 2002 model or BMW's earlier model (2002 or
    before). I don't want to buy a new one. I have been told that the European
    imports lose value very quickly.I have been warned by my mechanic to be
    prepared to spend a bunch of money for repairs.
    Now - I have many questions. I need your advise. What are your repairs in
    the first year? How do you like these car makers in comparison to the
    JAPANESE (if you have ever owned JAP car or SUV before). How about the
    difference between VOLVO and BMW?
    VV
     
    VV, Jan 24, 2004
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    JohanE Guest

    buy an XC90. American cars suck.
     
    JohanE, Jan 24, 2004
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  3. My 2001 V70 XC has had no repairs in the first 3 years. I had a AWD
    Subaru Legacy and gave it away since it was rusting away. The Subaru
    had many repairs: the transmission/AWD unit was replaced just before
    100,000 miles, the drivers door lock mechanism fell apart locking me in
    the car, the air conditioner compressor fell apart and had to be
    repaired, the drivers sun visor wouldn't stay up and had to be replaced,
    the air shocks leaked and were replace with mechanical shocks, the tail
    gate rusted out and had to be replaced, the sun roof leaked, and the
    axle bearings wore out and had to be replaced.
     
    Stephen M. Henning, Jan 24, 2004
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    James Sweet Guest


    That's not very helpful, he didn't even list any american cars on his list
    in the first place.
     
    James Sweet, Jan 24, 2004
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    Rob Guenther Guest

    I think he meant in general.

    The BMW X5 is assembled in the USA, I guess he feels that American
    assemblers can't tighten screws as good as Germans or Swedes... Which is
    total bullshit, I would hope. American cars for many years have used
    inferior parts to Euro/Japanese cars, so they would break faster, in
    general. But that BMW uses all German parts (Bosch... guess what, so does
    the Volvo... my 960 has more German then Swedish stuff in it, it's all Bosch
    or Hella).

    It seems to be true that the Americans don't care as much about adjustment
    tolerances for doors, trunklid, hood panel gaps. But i'm sure the German
    bosses have made sure that the X5 is assembled properly.

    The X3 looks good, and is made at a Magna Steyr plant in Austria, I
    believe... Since I work for Magna, and they tell us the quality is quite
    good from that plant, i'll go on reporting that they are good quality :).

    I wouldn't buy either the Volvo or BMW SUV's if I had the money to tho, I
    think i'd have myself that VW Toureg, it's just such a nice car.... and has
    REAL offroad capabilty.
     
    Rob Guenther, Jan 25, 2004
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    Mark Seeley Guest

    Or spend a little more and get the Porsche Cayenne Turbo, though I'm not
    sure I like the styling as much. But the newest Range Rover..... they look
    fun! Interestingly enough, those of you who know Top Gear (TV program in
    the UK), despite them usually ridiculing volvos just for the hell of it,
    they did choose the XC90 as the winner of the 4x4 category - must be an
    awesome car!

    Mark
     
    Mark Seeley, Jan 25, 2004
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    Rob Guenther Guest

    I found a website with those Top Gear test on it (mainly the sporty cars
    tho), man do I wish I got that show in Canada, best car show ever.... love
    the "Stig" and the reviewers in general.
     
    Rob Guenther, Jan 25, 2004
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  8. Because there's more to the internet than hits alone, Rob Guenther
    wrote:
    The Stig, I found out the other day, is Perry McCarthy, probably the
    most unlucky man ever to get a Formula 1 seat. He drove for a team
    that was so desparately underfunded in the early '90s that they often
    couldn't afford to send him out for practice, and I don't think he
    ever managed to get through qualifying and start a race. He built up
    quite a following in the UK, (we always like an underdog, apparently),
    though in international terms he was probably unheard of. He later
    went on to have more success in sports cars, including Le Mans.

    As for the rest of the Top Gear programme, and in particular it's main
    presenter, I commend the following site to you (click on the picture):

    http://www.urban75.com/Punch/clarkson.html


    --

    Stewart Hargrave

    Finally visible on www.hargrave.me.uk

    I run on beans - laser beans


    For email, replace 'SpamOnlyToHere' with my name
     
    Stewart Hargrave, Jan 26, 2004
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