Volvo v40

Discussion in 'Volvo V40' started by Hans Haanskorf, Jan 20, 2004.

  1. Bought a brand new Volvo V40 1.8.

    He is great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
    Hans Haanskorf, Jan 20, 2004
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  2. Why didn¨t wait new Volvo V50...it is better!! :)
     
    AGlivar - CroAstro.com, Jan 27, 2004
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  3. The V40 was Dutch (as is Hans) from Born, Holland. It concludes the
    Dutch connection with Volvo. The V50 is built in Ghent, Belgium. The
    judgement that the V50 is better is based on Ford press releases since
    none have been sold yet. The V50 is a Ford. The V40 is a Volvo.

     
    Stephen M. Henning, Jan 27, 2004
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  4. The V40 is mainly a Mitsubishi, and these are Benz and these are Chrysler!
    Are you really willing to ride an american car???
    Sasa
     
    Sasa Milkowski, Jan 28, 2004
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  5. Hans Haanskorf

    James Sweet Guest


    It's still hardly an american car, besides, not every american car is junk,
    it's just unfortunate that a great many of them are.
     
    James Sweet, Jan 28, 2004
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  6. Hans Haanskorf

    Bev A. Kupf Guest

    What do you mean by that? Has Volvo/Ford sold their interest in DAF?
     
    Bev A. Kupf, Jan 28, 2004
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  7. The press releases out of Volvo/Ford say that when the new S40 and V50
    get going out of the Ghent, Belgium, plant, they won't be producing any
    cars at the old DAF plant.

    "In 1976, DAF's four-cylinder Variomatic-transmission 66 model became a
    Volvo, heralding the introduction of the rather mundane 340 series. By
    1981, the Dutch government had invested sufficient capital in the
    company to reduce Volvo's stake to a 30% share.

    The Volvo 480ES, introduced in 1986, was a front-drive hatchback which
    was conceptually rather similar to the P1800 ES. The 480 used a 1.7
    Renault engine, and was built in the Netherlands at the Volvo BV plant.

    In 1988 Volvo introduced the Volvo 440 - an important new model in the
    intermediate class and developed by Volvo Car B.V. in Holland.

    In 1995 Volvo unveiled a completely new vehicle family while stepping up
    development efforts on new products. The compact Volvo S40/V40 - the
    first cars to emerge from the joint venture with Mitsubishi - were
    presented during the year. Volvo and Mitsubishi were building
    completely different car models at the Born Plant, using the same
    production equipment. In order to release capacity at the Born Plant,
    production of the Volvo 480 was discontinued. In November, the last car
    in the Volvo 400 Series was manufactured, after production of almost
    700,000 units since 1985.

    Volvo's previous S40 continues to be built at Born, Holland until spring
    2004, and its demise after that signals the end of Volvo's Dutch
    connection which began with DAF. The new S40 and its forthcoming V50
    estate version, which share nothing at all with their predecessors, are
    to be built in Ghent, Belgium. The new S40 is based on Ford's C1
    platform, derived from the current Focus, which also underpins the next
    Focus, the Focus C-MAX and the Mazda 3. Volvo calls it P1 (for Premium).

    The all new Volvo V50 replaces the current V40, which was launched in
    the United States in 1999. It is bigger than the S40 but smaller than
    the S60. Sales of the all new V50 sportswagon will begin in the U.S. in
    summer, 2004 as a 2005 model."
     
    Stephen M. Henning, Jan 29, 2004
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  8. Hans Haanskorf

    Bev A. Kupf Guest

    Interesting decision on their part. Thanks for the press release, Stephen.
     
    Bev A. Kupf, Jan 29, 2004
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  9. Hans Haanskorf

    Metaxaman Guest

    On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 18:41:17 GMT, "Stephen M. Henning"

    ; The judgement that the V50 is better is based on Ford press
    releases since none have been sold yet.
    ; The V50 is a Ford. The V40 is a Volvo.

    Don't think so... Since a lot of guys that were actively involved in
    the engineering of the currently produced X40's are also in
    engineering the new S40/V50 you might be surprised.........

    Time will tell........
    ;
    Regards,

    Metaxaman
     
    Metaxaman, Jan 29, 2004
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  10. And their pay check comes from Ford. Volvo Corporation doesn't make
    cars anymore.

    Volvo Corporation designed the V40.
    Ford Motors designed the V50.
     
    Stephen M. Henning, Jan 29, 2004
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  11. Hans Haanskorf

    Stuart Gray Guest

    nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
    oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
    oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
    sorry, my 240 roots are showing. LOL
     
    Stuart Gray, Jan 29, 2004
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  12. Hans Haanskorf

    metaxaman Guest

    Stephen, you may have a lot of experience driving/owning Volvo's, but I
    have more hands-on experience in the development, testing, production and
    after sales servicing of some Volvo cars (the small ones.....:cool:).
    I certainly know more about the new S40/V50 (I have been part of VCC
    for quite a lot of years, involved with 300/400/X40 models). While it is
    certainly true that major project decisions for the new S40/V50 and
    other undisclosed models needed final approval from Ford (as well
    as from Mazda), these cars were NOT designed by Ford....

    And the last time I looked the paycheck still came from VCC.

    VCC transferred quite a lot of money to Ford over the past years ("the
    profits on selling cars they were NOT making anymore" according to you).
    Volvo always showed better profits than the other PAG-parttners.

    By the way: the S40/V40 modelline currently being produced in Born -
    (untill June 30, 2004 when the Joint-Venture Agreement between VCC and MMC
    terminates) has been the single biggest moneymaking modelline for Volvo.
    EVER.

    Closing down in Born had nothing to do with Volvo. VCC would have liked to
    stay there. Born is one of the better European carmanufacturers.
    Ford made the decision to move away from Born since they already had car
    production overcapacity in that area.
    In the Joint Venture (contract dating back to 1991) clauses existed that
    gave each of the partners (Volvo & Mitsubishi) the right to buy out the
    other partner if that partner was acquired by another party. Since Ford
    acquired Volvo before Mitsubishi was (partly) acquired by Daimler Chrysler
    MMC had the right (and did loan the required money from DC) to buy out
    Volvo.

    Regards,
     
    metaxaman, Jan 30, 2004
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  13. And who owns VCC, Volvo or Ford?
     
    Stephen M. Henning, Jan 31, 2004
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  14. Hans Haanskorf

    Metaxaman Guest

    On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 16:40:14 GMT, "Stephen M. Henning"

    ;
    ; > And the last time I looked the paycheck still came from VCC.
    ;
    ; And who owns VCC, Volvo or Ford?

    You know the answer to that just as well as I do. But that does not
    mean that salaries for VCC-employees are paid by Ford. It means that
    VCC salaries are being paid from the profits of selling the volvo cars
    that "Volvo Corporation doesn't make"........ (but Volvo Cars DOES).
    ..
    It just dawned on me that you may have referred to the original
    (pre-Ford era) Volvo Corporation here.... I wasn't.............:cool:

    Just a misunderstanding.........

    Regards,
    Metaxaman
     
    Metaxaman, Feb 5, 2004
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