What does the "SR" mean?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Stuart Gray, Nov 22, 2003.

  1. Stuart Gray

    Stuart Gray Guest

    I just noticed on my Registration Certificate (UK) that my car is described
    as a Volvo 740 GL SR. What does the SR bit signify? I ask because I just got
    a nice letter from the Fife Constabulary telling me I got caught doing 80mph
    in a 70 mph zone. (bugger!) and on their form it said SR, so I looked out my
    Registration Form. I've never heard of this "SR" before. Anyone know?
    PS what is the fine for a first speeding offence? I'm really hacked off
    because it's the first time I've ever been caught out in cars or bikes
    GRRRRR!!!!, and my kids think it's really funny that I got caught, bugger
    them.
    I hate these mobile, out of the back of a van speed trap things. Can they
    really park illegally and take readings? This one was parked on the verge of
    a dual carriageway on the grass at the side of the road, just after a
    laybye. Damned sure if I parked where he was I'd get charged with illegal
    parking. Ah Well !!!!!
     
    Stuart Gray, Nov 22, 2003
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  2. Stuart Gray

    RWD Guest

    Would your car happen to have a sunroof?
     
    RWD, Nov 23, 2003
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  3. Stuart Gray

    Stuart Gray Guest

    Nope, no sunroof.
     
    Stuart Gray, Nov 23, 2003
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  4. Stuart Gray

    Mark Seeley Guest

    PS what is the fine for a first speeding offence? I'm really hacked off
    3 points, £60 fine... and i believe you're meant to tell your insurance
    company too. The fine's not really the problem - it's the insurance!
    Interesting question - they don't have their flashing lights on, I'm not
    sure whether it's legal or not... would be interesting to know (not that I'm
    going to be the one to tell them!!).

    Mark
     
    Mark Seeley, Nov 23, 2003
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  5. SR???????


    Is it Stolen Recovered?

    About mentioning points to insurance. Yes do, but it will make little to no
    difference to your premium. If you however have an accident and have NOT
    declared them, void your insurance. Making you responsible for paying for
    damages to ALL parties involved. On top of that you are also breaking the
    law, as you would be driving your vehicle with NO insurance.

    Rumours have been circulating that if you do not sign the form, sent by the
    nice Contabulary/Council. You are in fact not admitting to driving the
    vehicle at time of conviction and therefore not liable to the fines and
    points, because they cannot prove your guilt.

    By the way people actually got away scot free from prosecution by NOT
    signing the form.

    Thing is, do you want to battle it with the courts or just admit guilt?

    3 points is the norm for just 10mph over the limit, however if you were over
    100mph it would be an instant ban. Unless you are good at grovelling to the
    courts. Even then it would be a hefty fine!
     
    Artful Dodger, Nov 24, 2003
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  6. Stuart Gray

    Mark Seeley Guest

    About mentioning points to insurance. Yes do, but it will make little to
    no
    Doesn't seem to be the case with me - my quotes with many companies are
    around £100 higher when I add on 3 points... that's a considerable
    difference. However being under 25 means my premium's a lot anyway!
    Under UK law, you're required to tell the police who's driving the car if
    asked. Interestingly enough, if the UK joins the EU, under European law we
    wouldn't be required to tell the police who was driving at the time
    (invasion of privacy laws are a little different).

    Mark
     
    Mark Seeley, Nov 24, 2003
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  7. Because there's more to the internet than hits alone, Mark Seeley
    wrote:

    [..]
    This sounds like an urban myth to me. I'm pretty sure that if you do
    not name a driver, you the owner are deemed to be responsible.
    Something like that.
    As the UK joined the EU over 30 years ago, I'd say this is doubtful
    information, too.



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    Stewart Hargrave

    I run on beans - laser beans


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    Stewart Hargrave, Nov 24, 2003
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  8. Stuart Gray

    Mark Seeley Guest

    Rumours have been circulating that if you do not sign the form, sent by
    Ok, I obviously got something a little wrong there! If you know anyone who
    watches Top Gear (I think the ep aired in the UK on Sunday 23rd - ie
    yesterday) they explained the details of it... I don't have a copy
    unfortunately. Would be interested if anyone remembers though.

    Mark
     
    Mark Seeley, Nov 25, 2003
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  9. Stuart Gray

    Peter Milnes Guest

    <snipped>

    : Under UK law, you're required to tell the police who's driving the car if
    : asked. Interestingly enough, if the UK joins the EU, under European law we
    : wouldn't be required to tell the police who was driving at the time
    : (invasion of privacy laws are a little different).
    :
    : Mark
    :
    And in fact you get a £100 fine AND three points for not complying with the law
    which says you MUST give requested information truthfully.

    Cheers, Peter.
     
    Peter Milnes, Nov 25, 2003
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  10. Because there's more to the internet than hits alone, Mark Seeley
    wrote:
    It's prolly something to do with the Social Chapter - the bit of the
    Maastricht Treaty that Thatcher got an exemption from (before trying
    to weedle out of ratifying the whole thing altogether), only for Blair
    to later sign up for it. However, since then, the government's
    implimentation of it has been a little less than enthusiastic.

    I still reckon the basis of the theory is an urban myth, but it'll
    probably buy a few lawyers some expensive cars in finding out.


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    Stewart Hargrave

    I run on beans - laser beans


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    Stewart Hargrave, Nov 25, 2003
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  11. Stuart Gray

    Sean Nugent Guest

    But the law does not require you to sign. So you can give the
    information without signing.

    There is a case going in front of the High Court - probably febuary to
    determine this...

    Sean
     
    Sean Nugent, Nov 25, 2003
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  12. Stuart Gray

    Peter Milnes Guest

    In my local paper there are details of a chap who was fined £150 plus £35
    expenses and awarded three points on his licence for this same offence.

    Cheers, Peter.

    :
    :
    : :
    : <snipped>
    :
    : : Under UK law, you're required to tell the police who's driving the car if
    : : asked. Interestingly enough, if the UK joins the EU, under European law we
    : : wouldn't be required to tell the police who was driving at the time
    : : (invasion of privacy laws are a little different).
    : :
    : : Mark
    : :
    : And in fact you get a £100 fine AND three points for not complying with the
    law
    : which says you MUST give requested information truthfully.
    :
    : Cheers, Peter.
    :
    :
    :
     
    Peter Milnes, Nov 26, 2003
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  13. Stuart Gray

    Sean Nugent Guest

    The magistrates have something like a 96% conviction rate because they
    will normally side with the CPS if something is unclear. However there
    is nothing in law to say that you must sign. The DPP vs Broomfield
    case that they quote as case law is garbage and in fact not relavent
    but the Mags still convict. Wait till Feb when the law will be
    clarified.

    Sean
     
    Sean Nugent, Nov 26, 2003
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  14. Stuart Gray

    Stuart Gray Guest

    Got the following email from the DVLA. Now off to search the web for the
    meaning. Being a Volvo 740 estate automatic, I doubt the S stands for sports
    !! LOL

    Thank you for your e-mail.

    The Volvo company manufactures many different variants of the Volvo 740. Two
    of these variants are the "Volvo 740 GL" and the "Volvo 740 GL S/R".

    A Volvo dealer would be able to describe the difference between the two
    variants, and exactly which one your vehicle is. Alternatively, many car
    books and magazines would contain this information.

    The "SR" is not generated by DVLA, and certainly does not mean
    "Stolen/Recovered".

    I hope this is helpful.



    Regards

    Customer Enquiries Vehicles
     
    Stuart Gray, Nov 29, 2003
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