XC90 V8 coming.........

Discussion in 'Volvo XC90' started by Mark Rayner, Feb 17, 2004.

  1. Mark Rayner

    Mark Rayner Guest

    Why is it as soon as you buy a new car, they bring out a better version
    before the new car smell has had the chance to loose it's intensity?

    I am the proud owner of a three month old T5 XC90 and now Volvo say a V8
    super dooper model is going to be released this year!

    Oh well, I wont be going to the local Volvo dealership to see it, because I
    know my next call will be to the local bank manager.

    Happy days!

    Mark
     
    Mark Rayner, Feb 17, 2004
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    Rob Guenther Guest

    ...... Who's V8 engine are they using?

    If it's a Ford V8, are Ford motors any good? ie - worthy of a large Volvo
    black plasitc cover over them, with small Volvo badge, and possibly "DOHC"
    or "32 Valve" stamped into it.

    I've wondered why Volvo never made a V8 engine, but I guess they would have
    had no foundation to start from, and no need move from (going to less
    cylinders), as they tend to make inline engines (.... then again, who
    wouldn't want to tack on two cylinders to the PVR design......... now that's
    some sarcasm)
     
    Rob Guenther, Feb 18, 2004
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    James Sweet Guest

    How do you know the new one is "better"? It's simply new, and who makes the
    V8? You never know, it could be excellent or it could be a piece of crap.
    Obviously the T-5 was good enough for you when you bought it, is it
    deficient in some way or are you just worried that someone else might have a
    "better" car than you? I could never understand why some people are so
    obsessed with having the latest and greatest.
     
    James Sweet, Feb 18, 2004
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  4. Mark Rayner

    James Sweet Guest

    Ford V8's are alright, IMO not worthy of a Volvo badge on them, but typical
    of any other domestic V8. I'd be surprised if one lasted more than 150k
    miles without getting pretty tired.
     
    James Sweet, Feb 18, 2004
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    Rob Guenther Guest

    Well Volvo has had a history of using some VW engines (okay, their diesels,
    and they weren't all too popular here)... maybe they could source the lovely
    Audi 4.2L V8 :).
     
    Rob Guenther, Feb 18, 2004
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    Pat Durkin Guest


    You haven't been paying attention. While you weren't looking Ford has been
    building engines for many years that COMMONLY go 200,000 miles or better
    before the first overhaul.

    Don't believe it?

    Next time you see an older model F450 with the 7.6L gas V8, ask the guy
    driving it how many miles it's got.

    How long's this been going on? Oh, I don't know...at least a couple of
    decades I guess.

    The 7.5L V8 has been out of production for several years now. It's been
    replaced by a slightly smaller 6.8L V10. That engine is expected to have at
    least similar life-to-overhaul potential.

    Sorry to burst your strongly held conviction that everything made in the US
    is junk.

    Pat

    PS - By the way, where do YOU work? Do you personally make any kind of
    consumer product? Remind me not to buy anything made by somebody like
    yourself.
     
    Pat Durkin, Feb 18, 2004
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    James Sweet Guest

    I make quite a few things myself, all of excellent quality, but then with my
    own projects cost is no object, at least relative to mass produced items.
    I'm not sure why you'd want to not buy something made by somebody who's an
    extremely anal retentive perfectionist but that's their problem. If everyone
    was like myself, everything would be very well made, easy to service and
    consequently relatively expensive.

    Not everything made here is junk, but sometimes I do wish we could return to
    a time when Made in the USA was something to be proud of, these days most
    things made here are competing with cheaply made overseas stuff so quality
    drops to keep the prices down.

    I've owned a number of domestic vehicles, a couple of them were Fords, I've
    always done all my own mechanical work and I end up doing it for friends
    too. Yes a few engines made here have been pretty good, I've seen a few V6's
    and V8's with over 200k on them, domestic Diesel engines are also often very
    good, but I've had poor experience with domestic gasoline engines, helped
    replace a couple big block V8's that were very tired at around 145k, helped
    out with two different Taurus transmission swaps, they'd died at around 130k
    and I've heard of many more, my '88 Ranger pickup was falling apart at 95k
    miles, burned and leaked oil, transmission was notchy, clutch was starting
    to slip, the Escort I had for a while before that had around 170k and was
    burning oil and smoking badly, power seatbelts were broken, interior panels
    falling apart, not exactly confidence inspiring.

    Then I got my Volvo, '87 740 Turbo, it drives almost like a new car, the
    interior has held up very well, paint still looks good, at 260k miles it
    runs excellent, doesn't burn any oil, all the accessories work, I was sold.
    When 200k becomes the norm and 300k not unheard of, then perhaps I'll look
    again at domestic cars, but I had my own experience with them and it was
    negative, I've driven a number of fairly new ones and have not been
    impressed with the overall fit and finish, there's just no comparison to the
    better European and Japanese stuff, maybe some day that'll change, I don't
    yet see it coming.
     
    James Sweet, Feb 18, 2004
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    Jordan B. Guest

    Ouch! Sounds like someone's got a USA A-OK chip on his shoulder! Even if the
    engine lasts, will the transmission? My personal philosophy is "Always buy
    quality goods regardless of where they are made." That being said my 1994
    Dodge Caravan has more than 250,000 KMs on it and still runs well. Of course
    it's got the Mistubishi engine in it ! {:)>

    Jordan 1999 S70 Loaded!
     
    Jordan B., Feb 18, 2004
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  9. Actually when Volvo Cars was owned by Volvo Group (not Ford), they did
    make V8s and the Volvo Group still does. There were used in their
    trucks. One of the inline 4 cylinder Volvo car engines was said to be
    basically 1/2 of the the petrol B36AV V8 truck engine.
     
    Stephen M. Henning, Feb 18, 2004
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    Mark Rayner Guest

    Mate! Get over it. It was "tongue in cheek"!!!!

    I was commenting on a "why is it always so" issue of life in a light hearted
    way................never mind.

    Mark
     
    Mark Rayner, Feb 18, 2004
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  11. No, it's not a Ford V8.
    The V8 will be made in Japan by Yamaha.
    Rgds,
    Carl
     
    Carl / Sweden, Feb 18, 2004
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    Pat Durkin Guest


    That may very well be true in Europe or anywhere else but North America.
    There's a saying that one should never say "never" so I'm reluctant to say
    there's never been a Volvo gasoline-powered truck engine in North America,
    but my suspicion is that that may be the case. In the US, Canada and
    Mexico, Volvo's only engine is an inline 6-cylinder turbocharged and
    intercooled 12.1L diesel known as the VE D12D. It is a very good engine
    with a B-50 rating of 1,000,000 miles. Its standard power output is 365 @
    1900 RPM with 1350 ft lbs of torque @ 1100 RPM. Optional ratings of 395,
    435, and 465 are also offered, with torque up to 1650 ft lbs @ 1100.

    In the past Volvo also offered a 7-liter 6-cyl diesel in the US, along with
    an earlier 12-liter prior to 1994.

    In Europe there is a 16-liter with ratings of 550 and 610 HP.

    Volvo is reputed to be the world's largest producer of large diesel engines.

    Pat
     
    Pat Durkin, Feb 19, 2004
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    Rob Guenther Guest

    Exactly... or else you would have bought the Turbo 6 cylinder if you wanted
    more power, right?
     
    Rob Guenther, Feb 19, 2004
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    Kamm2MacD Guest

    << Volvo say a V8
    Glug glug glug....
    thank GWB for all that he's doing to ensure we can drive around these gas
    guzzlers.
     
    Kamm2MacD, Feb 21, 2004
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    John Horner Guest

    The great rise of the SUV was well under way before the current US President
    took office.

    Why don't I hear anyone groaning about the massive market share shift
    towards trucks which happened during the eight years of Bill Clinton?
    Remember when he cut loose oil from the strategic petroleum reserve to lower
    gasoline prices????

    Lest you think me a simple partisan, I voted for Clinton the first time and
    am still a registered Democrat.

    John
     
    John Horner, Feb 28, 2004
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