Yet another 88 240 wont start (sometimes)

Discussion in 'Volvo 240' started by dso2001, Feb 13, 2007.

  1. dso2001

    dso2001 Guest

    This is a great forum and Ive been reading for tips and tricks, your
    opinions will be appreciated. Ive Googled this list for hours and see
    similiar problems, but not this specific one.

    1988 240 GL USA model. About 2 months ago, wont start - cranks good
    but wont turn over. Tow to the Volvo independent and left overnight.
    He goes out and it starts, no problem, repeated starts all day. Says
    spark OK and voltage to main fuel pump OK. We go to pick it up - wont
    start. He keeps it and the next day same situation, cant make it
    fail.
    We figure it is 90% probably main fuel pump so I ask him to change it.
    Also FP relay. No problem since that time.

    Then yesterday, wont start. Tow to the general repair shop, left
    overnight. Today, he finds lots of spark, lots of fuel to the
    injector. Pulls plugs - they are fouled, empties something (I forget)
    lots of additional fuel. He also reattached tiny vaccuum hose that
    goes from firewall to top of intake manifold (?) Starts OK for him.
    We go to pick it up - wont start (!) Bring the mechanic out - he gets
    in and cranks for 10 seconds - it starts. No problems since, but you
    can understand our concern for reliability.

    Some misc information: Changed rotor cap and plugs 3 months ago. Gas
    was very low yesterday, added 1.5 gallons but still not able to
    start. Filled the tank after leaving the shop today. Yesterday, I
    could hear the relay click, but not the whirring of fuel pumps? Am I
    just not listening at the right time / place? Once started, the thing
    runs great, no dips in RPM or stalling.

    Ideas? AMM? Tank fuel pump? Sensors?

    I'll be bringing it back to the independent this week, but in the
    meantime am looking for ideas. Sorry for the long post, I didnt have
    time to write a short one.

    Don O in ATL
     
    dso2001, Feb 13, 2007
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    James Sweet Guest


    I'm starting to sound like a broken record here but check the engine
    wiring harness, '88 is right on the edge, it may have the updated
    insulation that doesn't rot, or it may have the old stuff which is
    cumbling to bits within the outer plastic sheath.
     
    James Sweet, Feb 13, 2007
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  3. wonder if hes parking the car up hill or down hill allowing the fuel to
    flow in spite of a faulty in tank pump.is you gear shift ok as the
    contacts maybe out of alignment stopping the car from starting good
    luck .OOOH AND CHECK THE FUEL RELAY THAT CAUGHT ME OUT ONCE THEY DIDNT
    SOLDER THE CONTACTS VERY WELL ON THE RELAY.
     
    John Robertson, Feb 13, 2007
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  4. dso2001

    dso2001 Guest

    All - I forgot to follow up on this and also to thank those that
    responded. James Sweet suggested checking the wiring harness and I
    did - all in very good shape. But I dug in and cleaned and ensured
    all connections were solid. On the wheel well behind the battery
    there was 18+ years of gunk etc. When clearing this out I noticed
    that a couple of wires in the area of the ignition modules had worn
    insulation so I taped them up - no issues at all in the past 6 weeks.

    So thanks again, and happy motoring!

    Don O. in ATL
     
    dso2001, Apr 9, 2007
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    Mr. V Guest

     
    Mr. V, Apr 9, 2007
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    James Sweet Guest


    Glad you got it going. Were the wires worn by something or is the
    insulation crumbling off? If it's crumbling, you have further hidden
    damage that will come back to bite you later.
     
    James Sweet, Apr 9, 2007
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  7. dso2001

    dso2001 Guest

    The insulation was good, just looked like something had rubbed or
    scraped through. But of course, since I cleaned and tightened dozens
    of connections in and around the engine compartment, I may have fixed
    multiple things - I hate when that happens :-O

    D
     
    dso2001, Apr 9, 2007
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