Fuel saving devices - do they do ANYTHING?

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Randy said:
George Carlin said: "Put two things together that haven't been put
together and some schmuck will buy it."

I think that we'd probably have more of a success building the
atmospherica fat extracting machine that George did a skit on years
sgo. This is the one that works on the premise "when people lose fat,
where does it go? Into the atmosphere!"

A little refining of the basic design and we convert everything to run
on diesel with a little AFEM on the carburator, and we've solved the
world's reliance on gasoline.
 
----------snipped from cnn this am------------------------

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Pennsylvania ranks first among the top ten worst
states for vehicle-deer collisions, according to an insurance survey
published Thursday.

Citing claim statistics, auto insurer State Farm said that drivers in
Pennsylvania experienced more deer collisions than any other state
between July 1, 2004 and June 30, 2005.

State Farm estimates that 1.5 million vehicles collide with deer every
year, resulting in 150 motorists deaths and $1.1 billion in vehicle
damages.

With deer migrating and mating season occurring between October and
December, the auto insurer says a higher number of deer are near roads
this time of year.

Coming in second and third were Michigan and Illinois, followed by Ohio
and Georgia. Minnesota and Virginia ranked sixth and seventh
respectively, while Indiana, Texas and Wisconsin rounded out the list
at eighth, ninth and tenth.

The insurance company said it based its rankings on the total number of
deer-accident claims filed with State Farm and did not adjust for
population.

The auto insurer says that attentive driving is still the best
deterrent for such accidents.

In order to avoid such collisions, State Farm says drivers should use
their high-beam headlights as much as possible to illuminate deer
hiding on the side of the road and to not rely on car-mounted 'deer
whistles,' which studies show not to affect the animal.

If a collision with a deer is unavoidable, according to the company, it
is best not to swerve, which could increase the risk of injury and
could cause you to lose control of your car.
 
There are a number of motorcycle clubs in the Northeast who are
(were?) purchasing hunting licenses and ammo for hunters who cannot
afford it in an attempt to lower these statistics as well (it was to
hunt the deer- not the drivers)..

I read somewhere that there are more deer living in the US now than
there were during the Revolutionary War.



~^ beancounter ~^ said:
----------snipped from cnn this am------------------------

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Pennsylvania ranks first among the top ten worst
states for vehicle-deer collisions, according to an insurance survey
published Thursday.

Citing claim statistics, auto insurer State Farm said that drivers in
Pennsylvania experienced more deer collisions than any other state
between July 1, 2004 and June 30, 2005.

State Farm estimates that 1.5 million vehicles collide with deer every
year, resulting in 150 motorists deaths and $1.1 billion in vehicle
damages.

With deer migrating and mating season occurring between October and
December, the auto insurer says a higher number of deer are near roads
this time of year.

Coming in second and third were Michigan and Illinois, followed by Ohio
and Georgia. Minnesota and Virginia ranked sixth and seventh
respectively, while Indiana, Texas and Wisconsin rounded out the list
at eighth, ninth and tenth.

The insurance company said it based its rankings on the total number of
deer-accident claims filed with State Farm and did not adjust for
population.

The auto insurer says that attentive driving is still the best
deterrent for such accidents.

In order to avoid such collisions, State Farm says drivers should use
their high-beam headlights as much as possible to illuminate deer
hiding on the side of the road and to not rely on car-mounted 'deer
whistles,' which studies show not to affect the animal.

If a collision with a deer is unavoidable, according to the company, it
is best not to swerve, which could increase the risk of injury and
could cause you to lose control of your car.

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'90 245 Estate - '93 965 Estate
"Shelby" & "Kate"
 
i live in colorado, but took a drive back to
boston a few years ago....when i went through
pen & that area...i was taken back by all the deer
i saw along the highway...both dead and standing
there l@@kin at the cars whizzin by...i saw a lot
more than i see along the colorado and wy roads.....
 
~^ beancounter ~^ said:
i live in colorado, but took a drive back to
boston a few years ago....when i went through
pen & that area...i was taken back by all the deer
i saw along the highway...both dead and standing
there l@@kin at the cars whizzin by...i saw a lot
more than i see along the colorado and wy roads.....
With the decline in farming in the Northeast US, because of geography, there area taken
by woods has grown, and the deer population with it. Where I live, in Westchester County,
NY, hunting is not allowed in most places because of the danger to people who live there.
During the winter, deer survive by eating garden shrubs.
 
I have found here down under that optimax gives me more range and certainly
better economy but at an extra 10c a litre it would want too. My Volvo pings
when its set high on standard but not on high octane BP or Shell fuel.
 
Where does optimax come from... I live in Perth, maybe it's one we don't
have? I found mine runs a bit "nicer" on shell super, but still no really
measurable advantage in power or economy.
 
jg said:
Where does optimax come from... I live in Perth, maybe it's one we don't
have? I found mine runs a bit "nicer" on shell super, but still no really
measurable advantage in power or economy.

It's from Shell. Here in the UK Optimax is Shell's unleaded premium brand so
if you're using Shell Super then I suppose that must be the same thing.
 
Sam Smith said:
It's from Shell. Here in the UK Optimax is Shell's unleaded premium brand so
if you're using Shell Super then I suppose that must be the same thing.
Our shell garages have unleaded, premium (I think) unleaded and super, which
has some sort of lead substitute. I believe it will be discontinued before
too long, in fact not all of them carry it now.
 
We've been running our Ovlov on 10% EtOH blend here (Aus) and have gotten
marked improvement on fuel consumption. Though, to put in perspective, the
ethanol blend is a 98 octane fuel, so I would be surprised if it did SFA.

Cheers

Hammo
 
jg said:
brand
Our shell garages have unleaded, premium (I think) unleaded and super, which
has some sort of lead substitute. I believe it will be discontinued before
too long, in fact not all of them carry it now.
Oops, very sorry. I'm naming the choices at our BP garages. I always hoped I
wouldn't be as stupid when I got older...
 
JG

I read somewhere that for some reason you don't get Optimax in WA (or
SA, NT and Tas). - think it was the Shell Website - Have a look. From
memory, Premium Unleaded was the best they offered - 95 Octane. Here in
Melb. they have just released Optimax plus which is 100 Octane. It
contains 5% ethanol and of course is a bit more than regular 98 Optimax.
Will try it and see if it makes any difference.

John

Our shell garages have unleaded, premium (I think) unleaded and super, which
has some sort of lead substitute. I believe it will be discontinued before
too long, in fact not all of them carry it now.
JG
 
Ah, you missed the bit where I admitted my stupidity at naming PB choices
instead of Shell. Years ago I arrrived at the theory that Shell fuel formed
carbon deposits in motors, specially those already prone. A couple of
mechanics agreed and I have avoided it ever since. Times and motors have
changed but I still have a distrust of shell fuel. Their oil is good though.
 
we have shell optimax on the east coast but its 10cents a litre more so only
handy for long trips extending your range a little .Bp ultimate is fine but
costs more too so does mobil 8000.why not use BP synthetic and bp ultimate
then you will get longer life less friction and better fuel economy as well
keep those tyres up .
 
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