(Lack of) appeal of older Volvos (240)

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We love our old Volvos because we know we own them and they are ahead in
safety and road feel .Would you get rid of your wife for a younger model
because she has a few wrinkles .Better the car you know eh?
 
John Robertson said:
We love our old Volvos because we know we own them and they are ahead in
safety and road feel .Would you get rid of your wife for a younger model
because she has a few wrinkles .Better the car you know eh?
Mine is the nicest car I've driven, but at 25 yrs it's a time bomb. If
someone offered a new anything I couldn't afford to refuse.
 
Well let's face it, any car older than 10 years, especially with
significant mileage, is going to suffer component breakdown from time
to time, in spite of the best preventative maintenance schedule. Then
again, a brand new car can leave one stranded with a blown ECU or other
electronic component. I think we all have to weigh the peace of mind
and relative reliability of a newer car versus its cost. An older car
will cost a LOT less to acquire and insure, and probably less to
operate (unless one buys a car that has been poorly maintained over its
life), but will have a somewhat higher risk of breakdown and component
failure. We all have to find a balance that sits well with us, taking
into account our need for dependability, and our abilities to
adequately maintain the car ourselves, and therefore prevent as many of
the unforeseen mishaps as possible. The 12 year old Volvo 240 I have
strikes that balance I think. We'll see how it works out this
winter....
 
Ya I wonder how an old volvo would compare with a new car in collision
testing?

The IIHS ran an 83 260 diesel and a similar aged Dodge Caravan through
their frontal test. The Dodge fared much better.

The newer Volvo probably would have sustained more damage in the scenario
described above, but not likely any significant structural damage. Car
companies are designing cars to be more pedestrian friendly in auto versus
people accidents.
 
jg said:
Mine is the nicest car I've driven, but at 25 yrs it's a time bomb. If
someone offered a new anything I couldn't afford to refuse.

If it's a time bomb then you're not maintaining it correctly.
 
holds: choose between a new and an old car with no other consideration at
all... you still want the old one? Of course as the new one ages, it's not
new any more and consequently doesn't fit the bill.


I would in fact, new cars are so boring and sterile, and the first little
ding from a piece of gravel really hurts. Much rather have something broken
in and familiar, something I know I can fix if something does break, and
something without a warranty so I don't have to worry about voiding it.
 
James Sweet said:
I would in fact, new cars are so boring and sterile, and the first little
ding from a piece of gravel really hurts. Much rather have something
broken
in and familiar, something I know I can fix if something does break, and
something without a warranty so I don't have to worry about voiding it.
Ah, a man after my own heart! We need to form a "warranties are a nuisance"
club! The car isn't truly yours until it is paid for and the warranty is run
out.

Mike
 
James Sweet said:
If it's a time bomb then you're not maintaining it correctly.
Probably, but regardless of maintenance one day something will wear out on
it which can't be fixed for less than the price of a newer old one. For
whatever maintenance failings, I keep cars longer than most I know and it's
usually rust which beats me - which suggests to me overcapitalisation.
 
same issues here "its unkool "but so is a wheel chair .We brought the Volvo
because we love our son and frankly these Japanese cars are tissue paper
thin ,so sure they go well but G-d forbid you should have an accident in
such a can .
 
I sure cant afford to run a Volvo if I went to the big dealers and paid what
they want for parts .I shop around and find the parts are as cheap or
cheaper than the main sellers ford and gm here .
 
i've owned/driven volvos since my 122 '64... the problem really is,
what do you do with a volvo *after* it has faithfully served you...
my '86 240 wagon has 400+K but my wife insisted, and i'm updating to
a '90 240 DL wagon, and again now have 4 of them critters (81,83,86,86)
that i *must* get off registration/insurance... the last horror sequence
was i just gave them away with the common, "pay me whenever" principle
as long as its 50+ miles away from me (i wanna fix my old cars for other
people)... that's a challenge! once/twice i've stripped to to differential,
and warehoused parts for "what-if" cases... i've still got 6-7 radiators
lenses, mass air meters, fuel pumps, strombergs, SU's, cluttering my
garage... ima getting too old for this, especially when the world is
passing me by with the "new" 5 cylinder FWD models...

so, i got a great 1990 245 Wagon... it will be my only car. (automatic
yuk!) but with 75K it should last my life... my comment here is to
emphasize the great importance of *maintenance*... my 86 245 hasn't
seen an oil change in 3yrs... it has 400K smiles and beyond total rust
of its rocker panels, exhaust leaks through the back door, and my
wife's endless rage about endangering our 2 irish setters it is perfect..
but it is now going away to someone who wants to mow our lawn, paint
our fence, bangs some nails, or whatever... ima moving on from my
relentless dream of holding on to my old herd of 240s...

undoubtedly, the 240 Series IS the best Volvo ever has made... but one
cannot drive more than one at a time!

ending this diatribe(?) is my suggestion to anyone looking to get a
pre-1992 240 Series Volvo (eBay has them from $400 to $4000)... just
realize that an '87 Volvo in Utah with 250K for $800 might not be a
better deal than a '90 Volvo next door with 80K for $4000... go for
the LOWEST MILEAGE at a decent price... but ALWAYS stay with the 240
Model....

best to all

Janos (Volvo owner for 40+ years)


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I know there are highest mileage lists for Volvo's what about starting a
longest period of CONTINUOUS ownership list.

You must be VERY old to have owned Ovlov's for 40 years, amazed you can use
email (joke!)

Andy
 
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