Which one of these cars are the safest, and which one should I get?

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Mark said:
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Judging the traffic I'm in every morning, I actually wonder the opposite.
Seeing all these cars at 120+ km/h with more often than not less than 5m of
space between them, makes me wonder why it's doesn't go wrong more often.

If an accident does occur it usualy involves a commercial van (like Peugeot
Partners, VW Transporters, Mercedes Sprinters), that underestimate their
reaction time and their decelleration rate.

Tailgating is a big pest around here, but despite this the police only focus
on people exceeding the speed limit, because that generates much more money.
In fact our government has ordered the police to issue more fines.

The tailgaters are probably the same who will speed. After all, tailgating
suggests that they're not satisfied with the prevailing speed and wants
to move faster. They usually get their way since nobody is keen on getting
their car shortened. Then there are those who deliberately cuts across lanes
millimeters in front of you, usually someone in a souped up car. Then there
are also those, when overtaking at very fast differential speed, move as
far as possible towards your lane to let you feel the whoosh. Just had one
of those today. All this is immature bad driving that ought to be stamped
out. BMW drivers usually annoy me the most, but then I stay calm and lets
nothing affect my driving. I don't know those people, don't want to know
them, hence no reason to impress them or otherwise.

In a driving school here in Florida the instructor suggested a saying
to take care of all those dangerous drivers:

FIDO

**** It Drive On

I try to use this advice as much as possible. It is rather difficult
with some of these guys and gals...but it works every time it is
tried...

Just say FIDO and go on...


Scott in Florida
 
I'm surprised at the mention of Toyota. The Camry, at least a couple years
ago (perhaps they've fixed it) had only "2 stars" on side impact.

But the larger omission is Subaru. My '04 Forester is "5-stars" front and
side. Weighs 3,300 lbs., so it's in the same weight class as
Camry/Accord/S60 Volvo. Further, the new '05 Subaru Legacy/Outback received
the highest crash ratings ever from the Australian New Car Assessment
Programme. See
http://www.carpages.co.uk/subaru/subaru_five_star_crash_test_award_for_new_legacy_20_04_04.asp.

HW
 
Hal Whelply said:
I'm surprised at the mention of Toyota. The Camry, at least a couple years
ago (perhaps they've fixed it) had only "2 stars" on side impact.

They've pretty much fixed it, especially with the Camry Solara Coupe
although it hasn't been tested in the front offset test yet, it's done
exceptionally well in all the other crash tests.

But the larger omission is Subaru. My '04 Forester is "5-stars" front and
side. Weighs 3,300 lbs., so it's in the same weight class as
Camry/Accord/S60 Volvo. Further, the new '05 Subaru Legacy/Outback received
the highest crash ratings ever from the Australian New Car Assessment
Programme. See

You are certainly correct, the Forester is one of the safest SUVs out
there, I wasn't looking for an SUV, but if I had the money and was
looking to buy an SUV, then off the top of my head I think that the
the Forester, Acura MDX, Chrysler Pacifica, and the Volvo XC90 would
be the top 4 choices.
The Forester did get 5 stars in the front crash test for the driver
and passenger as well as 5 stars for the side impact for the front
seats as well as 5 stars for the side impact for the rear seat and it
did get a best pick rating in the IIHS front offset test as well.
 
That's what I thought you'd say, moron.
Thanks for playing.

Way too funny, cos *that's* what I thought you'd say!

So here's the thing, you're right you win. I was always taught never to
argue with an idiot, you've dragged me down to your level and won by
experience.

Have a great day.

David.
 
Your SUV top-contenders list is a good one. You probably know that the
Forester is much smaller than any of the other marques on the list. However,
for most people, it's probably adequate, despite their preferences for more
vehicle. It weighs about 1,100-1,200 lbs. less (depending on the model) than
the MDX and Volvo; and as I recall, the Pacifica weighs at least 3,800 lbs.,
so the Forester has a 500 lb. advantage (OK, depending on how you look at
it!) there.

Anyway, thanks for your awareness of Subaru which, for some reason, seems
off the radar screen for many people. I think of it in some respects as a
sort of Japanese Volvo or Saab: very safe, well-engineered, distinctively
differentiated in the market (AWD standard all models) with some quirkiness
(flat-four/six), etc. Another advantage is (for now, at least; sales are up,
though) is some exclusivity--there just aren't very many around, compared to
Honda, Toyota, even BMW, at least here in The O.C. That situation is quite
different in snowy climes, e.g., Montana.

HW
 
The Diesel said:
You are certainly correct, the Forester is one of the safest SUVs out
there, I wasn't looking for an SUV, but if I had the money and was
looking to buy an SUV, then off the top of my head I think that the
the Forester, Acura MDX, Chrysler Pacifica, and the Volvo XC90 would
be the top 4 choices.

None of which are SUV's in the traditional sense (*Utility*). The only
reason that I have an SUV in the driveway at all is to tow my boat. None of
the station wagons you mentioned have the towing capacity I need to do that.
I have a Ford Exploder with a 302 V8 for that job.

Driving a real SUV to transport people is idiocy. On the other hand, those
station wagons that you mentioned that call themselves SUVs are probably
good people haulers, so I guess safety would be of importance.

And no, my Jeep Wrangler is neither an SUV nor a station wagon. It is not
good at people hauling (4 seater, not particularly safe) or trailering
(2000lb tow limt). But it does go off-road damn well...

-Fred W
 
And no, my Jeep Wrangler is neither an SUV nor a station wagon. It is not
good at people hauling (4 seater, not particularly safe) or trailering
(2000lb tow limt). But it does go off-road damn well...

-Fred W

I dunno if I agree with the safety on the Wranglers ...I've been around
Jeeps and Jeep owners for awhile now and can't even think of anyone who's
died in a Jeep or know anyone who's told me stories of such. They may not be
safe "feature-wise" with side airbags, crumple-zones, etc, but in terms of
life-and-death crashes, I'd rather be in a Wrangler than almost any car out
there (especially in a rollover). And it's very inexpensive and easy to
install 5-point harness systems, padded rollbars, and a few other "safety"
options in Jeeps that make them even better. If we're talking about backseat
passengers tho, then ya, it's not safe at all. I had a friend fall out of my
Jeep once in the backseat (no seatbelt obviously ...but still). Not cool at
all.
 
griffin said:
I dunno if I agree with the safety on the Wranglers ...I've been around
Jeeps and Jeep owners for awhile now and can't even think of anyone who's
died in a Jeep or know anyone who's told me stories of such. They may not be
safe "feature-wise" with side airbags, crumple-zones, etc, but in terms of
life-and-death crashes, I'd rather be in a Wrangler than almost any car out
there (especially in a rollover). And it's very inexpensive and easy to
install 5-point harness systems, padded rollbars, and a few other "safety"
options in Jeeps that make them even better. If we're talking about backseat
passengers tho, then ya, it's not safe at all. I had a friend fall out of my
Jeep once in the backseat (no seatbelt obviously ...but still). Not cool at
all.


The other safety "feature" I have on my Wrangler TJ is that I just don't
like to drive it fast. Sure, it's got the 4.0L six so it's capable, I just
don't like to. That and my knobby tires make a racket at highway speeds.
Other cars in the driveway are far better for high speed driving.

-Fred W
 
The other safety "feature" I have on my Wrangler TJ is that I just don't
like to drive it fast. Sure, it's got the 4.0L six so it's capable, I just
don't like to. That and my knobby tires make a racket at highway speeds.
Other cars in the driveway are far better for high speed driving.

-Fred W

In the sense of "accident avoidance safety" than ya, a Wrangler is probably
one of the worst-rated vehicles possible ;p Somehow tho, my Jeep was the
only vehicle I've owned that I haven't been hit in (I'm not counting
off-roading mishaps ;p) It's also the only vehicle I was never broken into
or had stolen ...even though it never had a top or doors and had a CD stereo
w/ aftermarket speakers and I left the keys in the ignition numerous times.
I guess people just figured it wasn't worth their time or that there's no
way I'd leave anything valuable in it.
 
Hello

There is a Diode across the Solenoid, and one of the leeds has broken.
The only number on the Diode is 701 2146

Does anyone have any information on this diode?

ground -- ----->l------- + positive.


TIA
Christopher
 
the diode is across the coil to shunt the back-EMF, which is a pulse of
reverse polarity current that occurs when the magnetic field in the coil
collapses when the power to it is turned off. Probably can be replaced by
any diode from Radio Shack... look for something with a PIV rating of a
couple hundred volts, and it would be hard to find anything on the rack that
can't handle an amp or so.... Just observe the same polarity as the original
when wiring it in place.....
 
the diode is across the coil to shunt the back-EMF, which is a pulse of
reverse polarity current that occurs when the magnetic field in the coil
collapses when the power to it is turned off. Probably can be replaced by
any diode from Radio Shack... look for something with a PIV rating of a
couple hundred volts, and it would be hard to find anything on the rack that
can't handle an amp or so.... Just observe the same polarity as the original
when wiring it in place.....
Ideally a 1N5406 Diode, Rectifier, Fast Recovery, General Purpose

Taff.........



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